[thredds] over written file has old global attributes

Jean.C.Newman at noaa.gov Jean.C.Newman at noaa.gov
Tue Nov 6 11:42:58 MST 2007


One other thing, the "old attributes" lasts. I made a run yesterday at 
11:23 am and it was over written several time the last at 16:09 and today 
if I look at that output file via LAS/"dncdump -h" it still shows the "old 
stuff" from the 11:23 run. "ncdump -h crescent_runup_ha.nc" has the 
correct 16:09 information. Thanks, Jean
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   Jean Newman                             Tel: 206-526-6531

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Jean.C.Newman at noaa.gov wrote:

> The question:
> Is there some way to turn off caching of metadata so the file is checked
> every time it's accessed? Jean
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> On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Jean.C.Newman at noaa.gov wrote:
>
>> It's not a browser caching problem. I have a very old LAS that accesses
>> these files. From the LAS, input for a model run is set up then a servlet
>> is run on 1 of several possible machines that starts a FORTRAN model run
>> that overwwites files so that the LAS interface has static files/"DODs"
>> URLs for the output. We are moving to different code but need to keep this
>> working until the new is up and reliable. The data updates, I can see
>> that in the plots, but I use global attributes in labeling and I get the
>> old information sometimes, 2 out of 31 SIM runs. The example I put out on
>> the sift machine was run on an internal machine and then sftp-ed to sift.
>> Then I made another run and again sftp-ed it to the sift machine and saw
>> the same "old attributes" problem, which I really didn't think I would.
>> If tomcat is restarted then I get the new information so I imagine it is
>> some caching problem. I did try removing the file before rerunning the
>> SIM and that did not solve the problem. Is there some way to turn off
>> caching of metadata so the file is checked every time it's accessed? Jean
>>  ___________________________________________________________
>>   Jean Newman                             Tel: 206-526-6531
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, John Caron wrote:
>>
>>> The other possibility is caching in your browser. It can be tricky to
>> be absolutely sure you are getting a fresh copy. I like using the "Live
>> HTTP Headers" plugin for firefox. But perhaps Shift-Refresh might work
>> also. An independent test is the ToolsUI application, which never caches:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/netcdf-java/v2.2/webstart-dev/index.html
>>>
>>> If you still see the problem, then it is caching on the server. It
>> occurs to me that "overwriting the file" may be the problem. You should
>> be writing a new file, and deleting the old. What exactly are you doing?
>>>
>>> Roy Mendelssohn wrote:
>>>> Hi jean: '
>>>>
>>>> My guess is you are getting the cached information, which hasn't been
>>>> updated.  You can set the frequency of update in the catalog xml
>>>> file.  Also, usually if you touch the file  (i.e. do something that
>>>> causes to Thredds to access the data( that  usually also updates the
>>>> info.
>>>>
>>>> -Roy M.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 5, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Jean.C.Newman at noaa.gov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a set of netcdf files that are being accessed via OpenDAP
>>>>> and are
>>>>> regularly overwritten. Most of the files, 29 sets of 31, update
>>>>> correctly
>>>>> but in 2 file sets the "Global Attributes" don't update to the new
>>>>> information although the "data" does. "ncdump -h" shows the correct
>>>>> information, :history = "MOST v2.080 11-05-2007  16:09:22" ;
>>>>>               :title = "Aleutian-Cascadia: Mwt 8.4, 21.00*b65" ;
>>>>>   in the headers but when I look at it in a browser,
>>>>> http://sift.pmel.noaa.gov/thredds/dodsC/data/crescent_runup_ha.nc.html
>>>>> I see the old file attributes,
>>>>> history: "MOST v2.080 11-05-2007  11:49:33"
>>>>> title: "Aleutian-Cascadia: Mwt 8.5, 29.00*b25".
>>>>> If I restart tomcat then the correct information shows up.
>>>>> I'm new at thredds so I may very well be doing something stupid but I
>>>>> could find no information. Below is the change I made to
>>>>> $tomcat_home/content/thredds/catalog.xml. Any suggestion?
>>>>> Thank you, Jean
>>>>> <service name="ncdods" serviceType="OpenDAP" base="/thredds/dodsC/" />
>>>>>    <datasetScan name="MOST tsunami model data" ID="mostDatasetScan"
>>>>>         path="sims" location="/home/tg15/data/sims"
>>>>> serviceName="ncdods">
>>>>>      <metadata inherited="true">
>>>>>        <serviceName>ncdods</serviceName>
>>>>>      </metadata>
>>>>>      <filter>
>>>>>        <include wildcard="*.nc"/>
>>>>>      </filter>
>>>>>      <sort>
>>>>>        <lexigraphicByName increasing="true" />
>>>>>      </sort>
>>>>>    </datasetScan>
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